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deficits into commanding romney leads. the idea behind it is simple. all polls base the outcome on what pollsters believe the electorate will look like, how many democrats versus how many republicans they think will actually turn out. getting that partisan makeup wrong can tilt the predictions. the people that don't believe the polls say this time, pollsters think the 2012 electorate will look a lot like 2008 and this they say is wrong. notice i said this time. back in 2004, democrats complained that the polls which showed george w. bush leading were overestimating the number of republicans who would vote. they were wrong. the polls were right. now, in 2000 al gore said don't believe the polls. polls showed him losing narrowly. polls were right. in fact, it's hard to find an example of the polls on average getting it wrong unless you go back to 1948, when they predicted thomas dewey defeated president harry truman. cnn political contributor ari fleischer joins us. he's an occasional unpaid communications advisor for the ro
deficits into commanding romney leads. the idea behind it is simple. all polls base the outcome on what pollsters believe the electorate will look like, how many democrats versus how many republicans they think will actually turn out. getting that partisan makeup wrong can tilt the predictions. the people that don't believe the polls say this time, pollsters think the 2012 electorate will look a lot like 2008 and this they say is wrong. notice i said this time. back in 2004, democrats...
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for mitt romney it will be his first. i suppose the question is it is games man ship on most accounts but does it work? >> they're trying to lower expectations. they're trying to make the other side seem fabulous, great debaters if you will. i think everybody is onto what they're saying in advance of the debates. yi thinthey're boso debaters, the prident of the united states, i moderate rated four debates fo yrs ago when he didates and didn't have to do any this cycle because no one was challenging him forhe democratic presidential nomination. i did moderate four last time including that final one-on-on debate that he did with hillary clinton at the kodak theater in los angeles and he is very good and hillary clinton i thought was a better debater and ironically joe biden and chris dodd did really well and the president obviously got the democratic nomination. he is a very solid debater. i moderate rated four republican presidential debates with mitt romney and i have the same feeling about him. very solid. knows his stu
for mitt romney it will be his first. i suppose the question is it is games man ship on most accounts but does it work? >> they're trying to lower expectations. they're trying to make the other side seem fabulous, great debaters if you will. i think everybody is onto what they're saying in advance of the debates. yi thinthey're boso debaters, the prident of the united states, i moderate rated four debates fo yrs ago when he didates and didn't have to do any this cycle because no one was...
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governor romney said he wouldn't. governor romney said it was tragic that we entered the iraq war. one of the reasons that al qaeda strengthened during the last decade was our focus in iraq. so we are happy to have this debate and we'll have it obviously -- >> was this an intelligence failure? >> no. this was an event obviously, a complex event. we're only talking about a matter of weeks here. so as information was arrived at, as determinations were made, that was shared with the american people. and i think again the focus needs to be how do we make sure that our facilities and ambassadors and our personnel are secure going forward. and that's what the focus is on. >> as you know, the chairman of the homeland security committee has called for susan rice to resign. >> she's done an excellent job for this country and this administration. >> ben ghazi is so bad that the fbi can't even go in and investigate. what about the fact that there are military operations to find ambassador stephens' killers? what is america doing to change the trajectory in libya? >> well, i'm not going to spe
governor romney said he wouldn't. governor romney said it was tragic that we entered the iraq war. one of the reasons that al qaeda strengthened during the last decade was our focus in iraq. so we are happy to have this debate and we'll have it obviously -- >> was this an intelligence failure? >> no. this was an event obviously, a complex event. we're only talking about a matter of weeks here. so as information was arrived at, as determinations were made, that was shared with the...
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romn romney. would they drop some of the medicaid programs, would you cover fewer people and say there will be less federal dollars going to it. those are the two fewer differences. >> interesting, mitt romney at times appears to be softening on obama-care and embracing his plan in massachusetts strongly and people are kind of confused about that. has his posture changed? shifted? what? >> that's fair. i've talked to governor romney about this in this past. interesting certainly one of the things he said about massachusetts in order to get universal health care done one of the benefits patients wouldn't have to go to the emergency room where it's the most expensive to get health care, you probably heard the other day, americans do have health care, they can go to an emergency room. that was clearly a bit of shift and tough one to explain. overall, think he's still -- if you ask him, he still believes people should get health care insurance. i think the strategy how he wants to get there is very di
romn romney. would they drop some of the medicaid programs, would you cover fewer people and say there will be less federal dollars going to it. those are the two fewer differences. >> interesting, mitt romney at times appears to be softening on obama-care and embracing his plan in massachusetts strongly and people are kind of confused about that. has his posture changed? shifted? what? >> that's fair. i've talked to governor romney about this in this past. interesting certainly one...
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i support mitt romney. >> i'm mitt romney, and a prove this message. >> sean: anytime you run an ad and you get more on the other party supporting you, that's got to be a good ad, right, by definition? >> exactly. and what was powerful there is you've got real people. i mean this guy -- the grit on his face, and what they have to go through in mining coal, it was the kind of ad that relates to hard working working class voters, people from places like ohio and michigan. sean, the only question i have, because the ads are powerful right now, and that was a good one, why did they wait till the third week of september to start running that ad? that i don't understand. >> sean: good point, good question. obama, back to class warfare. not one of us attacking romney for his wealth, which let's see if it resonates. i don't think it will. i haven't seen the dials yet. let's take a look. >> i'm barack obama. a prove this message. >> seen these new ads where mitt romney says he's a friend of coal country? this is the guy who wants to keep tax breaks for companies that ship american jobs overseas.
i support mitt romney. >> i'm mitt romney, and a prove this message. >> sean: anytime you run an ad and you get more on the other party supporting you, that's got to be a good ad, right, by definition? >> exactly. and what was powerful there is you've got real people. i mean this guy -- the grit on his face, and what they have to go through in mining coal, it was the kind of ad that relates to hard working working class voters, people from places like ohio and michigan. sean,...
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beth myers, governor romney's individualer says she -- romney's adviser, blooms. since he won't and can't talk about his record, he will talk about mitt romney. the gloves will come off. megyn: beautiful wayne, p.a. out in oregon today there is new controversy. hundreds of millions in taxpayer dollars in loans about to go to a startup solar company called solopower. many are comparing this to solyndra, the company that went bankrupt, leaving taxpayers on the hook. it's not just this controversy we want to tell you about, but what happened when fox news tried to speak with the company's ceo. dan springer streaming live from solo power in portland, oregon. >> reporter: the ceo refused to answer any of our questions at grand opening yesterday, even after taking questions from other media. solopower is getting lot of money from the government. we wanted to ask him why his company was a better gamble for taxpayers than solyndra or the others. the companies use the same raw materials. they both make thin, light, flexible solar panels that can go object big box store roo
beth myers, governor romney's individualer says she -- romney's adviser, blooms. since he won't and can't talk about his record, he will talk about mitt romney. the gloves will come off. megyn: beautiful wayne, p.a. out in oregon today there is new controversy. hundreds of millions in taxpayer dollars in loans about to go to a startup solar company called solopower. many are comparing this to solyndra, the company that went bankrupt, leaving taxpayers on the hook. it's not just this controversy...
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pounding the daylights out of him, and romney's or -- >> sean: i don't get it. i don't know why we're not seeing more pounding by him. do you think it starts next wednesday in colorado? >> sometimes he says positive things about obama. he cares about the middle class. no, barack obama doesn't care about the middle class. if he cared about the middle class, he wouldn't be putting through obama tax hikes on people in the middle class. >> let me just say that next wednesday night, this is it. they need to turn this campaign around. debates are vehicles of challengers. this is his chance to do this. >> sean: we need the mitt romney that showed up after losing south carolina, where he went into that state up double digits, and came out winning by double digits -- i'm sorry -- lost by double digits, then went to florida and had two debates with newt, that's the romney i want. >> the one-on-one debate forum is not necessarily president obama's best either. they've been after him for $700 million on character. the american people get 90 minutes to see whether or not tha
pounding the daylights out of him, and romney's or -- >> sean: i don't get it. i don't know why we're not seeing more pounding by him. do you think it starts next wednesday in colorado? >> sometimes he says positive things about obama. he cares about the middle class. no, barack obama doesn't care about the middle class. if he cared about the middle class, he wouldn't be putting through obama tax hikes on people in the middle class. >> let me just say that next wednesday...
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romney: "it's time to stand up to the cheaters" vo: tough on china? not mitt romney. when a flood of ese tires threatened a thousand american jobs... it was president obama who stood up to china and protected american workers. mitt romney attacked obama's decision... tanding up to china was "bad for the nation d our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing a stunningk of technolog introducing the entirely new lexus es. and the first-ever es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. and get outstanding deals with the travelocity fall hotel sale. you can save up to 40% on select hotels. so book your hotel now and save up to 40%. hurry, offer ends soon. book now at travelocity. >>> prisoners clash withuards at a dramatic jailbreak in northern q. lisalvester's monitoring that, some of the other top stories in "the situation room" right now. lisa, what happened? >> hi, wolf. lock down.nder they set off car bombs and overtook guards and stole their weapons. this is the aftermath of a riot at the p
romney: "it's time to stand up to the cheaters" vo: tough on china? not mitt romney. when a flood of ese tires threatened a thousand american jobs... it was president obama who stood up to china and protected american workers. mitt romney attacked obama's decision... tanding up to china was "bad for the nation d our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing a stunningk of technolog introducing the...
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romney: "it's time to stand up to the cheaters" vo: tough on china? not mitt romney. when a flood of chinese tires threatened a thousand american jobs... it was president obama who stood up to china and protected american workers. mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? syou know, i've helped a lot off people save a lot of money. but today...( sfx: loud noise of large metal object hitting the ground) things have been a little strange. (sfx: sound of piano smashing) roadrunner: meep meep. meep meep? (sfx: loud thud sound) what a strange place. geico®. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. i i had pain in my abdomen...g. it just wouldn't go away. i was spotting, but i had already gone through menopause. these symptoms may be nothing... but they could be early warning signs of a gynecologic cancer, such as cervical, ovarian, or uterine cancer. feeling bloated for no reason. that's what i remember
romney: "it's time to stand up to the cheaters" vo: tough on china? not mitt romney. when a flood of chinese tires threatened a thousand american jobs... it was president obama who stood up to china and protected american workers. mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? syou know, i've helped a lot off people save a lot of money. but...
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the romney campaign, $86 million raised. the pro romney super pac, $41 million. and american crossroads, affiliate with karl rove, $58.7 million. so you can add that up and get a big number or say if karl rove doesn't like how mitt romney does tomorrow night, he could give a lot of that $60 million, the biggest chunk of change, to, i don't know, senate candidates, congressional candidates, and not romney. >> that's right, erin. there are a lot of republicans and democrats who are very closely watching what these outside groups -- and it's not just the super pacs we have the money for and the finances. but also these 5014 c nonprofit groups raising a ton more money, the karl rove gps, the koch brothers, americans for prosperity. and there is a feeling that if mitt romney starts to look like he can't win, that they will pull the plug on him, and start diverting the money that they otherwise would have spent on his campaign, on congressional campaigns, and that really underscores the difference between these sort of post citizens united elections where the power and
the romney campaign, $86 million raised. the pro romney super pac, $41 million. and american crossroads, affiliate with karl rove, $58.7 million. so you can add that up and get a big number or say if karl rove doesn't like how mitt romney does tomorrow night, he could give a lot of that $60 million, the biggest chunk of change, to, i don't know, senate candidates, congressional candidates, and not romney. >> that's right, erin. there are a lot of republicans and democrats who are very...
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we can't afford to let mitt romney take us back. and beyond that, the obama campaign has a very serious ground game in those states you identified. we are going to be on the ground every day, knocking on doors, registering voters and getting them out to vote in states like iowa and ohio. we are already getting people to the polls. those states are voting now. and the dnc and obama for america has got a vote bus tour that is in ohio today that is encouraging people to vote early. so, we're going to bring them out. >> you say, though, that we're heading in the right direction. certainly it looks like that when you talk about the unemployment rate at 7.8%. it has dropped. but the real important number here is that 114,000 jobs that were added. this doesn't keep up, though, with the population growth. so, as far as you saying we're heading in the right direction, i mean, romney and other republicans say that's not enough and indicates how sluggish the economy actually remains. so, is the jobs report really a as good as obama is touting
we can't afford to let mitt romney take us back. and beyond that, the obama campaign has a very serious ground game in those states you identified. we are going to be on the ground every day, knocking on doors, registering voters and getting them out to vote in states like iowa and ohio. we are already getting people to the polls. those states are voting now. and the dnc and obama for america has got a vote bus tour that is in ohio today that is encouraging people to vote early. so, we're going...
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jim acosta traveling with mitt romney. president obama is trying to gain support what has traditionally been republican territory. what are you seeing? >> reporter: as you know, election day may be weeks away, but in virginia, ab sen tea voting is already under way and that is why you saw president obama and mitt romney treading on each other's turf this week. president obama heading to virginia beach as he tries to keep virginia out of reach for romney. >> reporter: in virginia beach, president obama tailored his latest attack on mitt romney to the military voters here as he hit his opponent for his recent comments that 37% of americans who don't pay income taxes see themselves as victims. >> i travel a lot around this country and i don't immediate meet a lot of victims. i see a lot of veterans who have served this country with bravery and distinction and i see soldiers who defend our freedom every single day and i see those military families who are wondering whether their loved ones are going to come back home safe and
jim acosta traveling with mitt romney. president obama is trying to gain support what has traditionally been republican territory. what are you seeing? >> reporter: as you know, election day may be weeks away, but in virginia, ab sen tea voting is already under way and that is why you saw president obama and mitt romney treading on each other's turf this week. president obama heading to virginia beach as he tries to keep virginia out of reach for romney. >> reporter: in virginia...
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well, cue mitt romney. that's what happened today. his team is furiously pointing out how many people are underemployed. last month's household survey found 582,000 of the jobs created involved part time workers who wanted to be full time. plus, no one should forget all the people who have stopped looking for work. romney says this new number or not is not what a recovery looks like. >> the truth is, if the same share of people were participating in the workforce, today is on the day the president got elected, our unemployment rate would be around 11%. >> "outfront" tonight, ali velshi, ethan and a former staff member for president obama's national commission on fiscal responsibility and reform, daniel mitchell, senior fellow at the cato institut alan, the numbers sound good. are they? >> i don't care. i'm going to go one further than erin. not only does the absolute number of the unemployment percentage not matter. i don't even think the trend matters. bottom line is there are measures of unemployment much more important. the number
well, cue mitt romney. that's what happened today. his team is furiously pointing out how many people are underemployed. last month's household survey found 582,000 of the jobs created involved part time workers who wanted to be full time. plus, no one should forget all the people who have stopped looking for work. romney says this new number or not is not what a recovery looks like. >> the truth is, if the same share of people were participating in the workforce, today is on the day the...
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what romney is saying. the reason they have to make she is assumptions is that romney is not showing anyone his tax plan. >> if he can win this with the middle class -- i'm speaking from o small focus group. they cared a lot about it. if this could be something that helps him move this election in swing states and he has to get more specific on loopholes and what he can close, should he do it next time in the next debate? >> that will be a decision the campaign makes. i don't have any idea. i tnk the american people will go one level above that and ask what are we trying to accomplish here? we're trying to accomplish growth, a set of policies that leads to growth. they're very discontented with the record of the president. the president tries very hard not to talk about it for exactly that reason and point the finger as much as he can at mr. romney. the trouble will be if he demands those details of mr. romney, he will then have to go back and explain how he fills in a gap in a budget that by its own admiss
what romney is saying. the reason they have to make she is assumptions is that romney is not showing anyone his tax plan. >> if he can win this with the middle class -- i'm speaking from o small focus group. they cared a lot about it. if this could be something that helps him move this election in swing states and he has to get more specific on loopholes and what he can close, should he do it next time in the next debate? >> that will be a decision the campaign makes. i don't have...
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now, mitt romney has never made that claim. this is coming from a report making all kinds of arguments. and he's made all kinds of a assumptions that the romney campaign has rejected. also puts harvey rosen, you can also generate enough growth to avoid a middle class tax increase. there are a loft credible folks saying something else. it's a fact he's going to raise middle class tax. >> the obama campaign, david plouffe is a chris christie of the campaign saying their campaign is built on a tripod of lies and the president has said sometimes they just make things up. >> last i checked, isn't this called politics? you have lying all the time in politics. it is our responsibility to call folks out on it. on my tv 1 show, i have a segment called the biggest damn lie. >> that's got to be a very tough line to draw. >> some lies are much bigger than the others. you have to call folks out on it. here's the problem i have when it comes to a debate. when you hear lies on a debate, they should be called on out on the spot. when you hear
now, mitt romney has never made that claim. this is coming from a report making all kinds of arguments. and he's made all kinds of a assumptions that the romney campaign has rejected. also puts harvey rosen, you can also generate enough growth to avoid a middle class tax increase. there are a loft credible folks saying something else. it's a fact he's going to raise middle class tax. >> the obama campaign, david plouffe is a chris christie of the campaign saying their campaign is built on...
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mitt romney hit back at him on that. let's take a look. >> i spent 25 years in business if i had a business executive come to me and said they want to spend a few billion to put a colony on the moon, i'd say you're fired. >> you think that's an example of romney at his best, straight toward and exerting business experience of what he knows. >> i do. it made newt gingrich look foolish and then subliminally, reinforced romney as someone with business credentials, he got to refer to him as a ceo. you want a two-pronged attack, helps you and hurts the other guy. >> it does -- mitt romney does struggle sometimes when if comes to attempts at humor or levity, he made a george costanza reference that felt a little debated. not that there is anything wrong with that. this exchange with rick perry. i want to play that. >> rick, i'll tell you what. $10,000? $10,000 bet. >> i'm not in the betting business. >> oh, okay. okay. >> that clearly got a lot of pickup. one of the dangers of offscript moments for a candidate like mitt romney
mitt romney hit back at him on that. let's take a look. >> i spent 25 years in business if i had a business executive come to me and said they want to spend a few billion to put a colony on the moon, i'd say you're fired. >> you think that's an example of romney at his best, straight toward and exerting business experience of what he knows. >> i do. it made newt gingrich look foolish and then subliminally, reinforced romney as someone with business credentials, he got to refer...
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. >> what he could say to mitt romney? >> if he's going double down on the 47% remark, it will cause difficulties. we know the overwhelming number of those people work and have children. >> president obama and the economy. how is he managed to avoid public retribution for not fixing the economy? >> it's not a normal thing. >> the extraordinary work of a clinton initiative. >> keep pushing the rocks up the hill. >> big ideas from the big names. dee pock chopra, things get lively at the global initiative. you want to make farming sexy, don't you? this is "piers morgan tonight." >>> mr. president, thank you very much for sparing the time to talk to me. you are in the eighth year now, of the clinton global initiative. i would imagine all the world leaders you managed to amass here, there are a few topics of concentrated attention. probably right at the top of the list would be this simmering tension between israel and iran. now, i interviewed president ahmadinejad last night and he was adamant that he has no plan to build a nu
. >> what he could say to mitt romney? >> if he's going double down on the 47% remark, it will cause difficulties. we know the overwhelming number of those people work and have children. >> president obama and the economy. how is he managed to avoid public retribution for not fixing the economy? >> it's not a normal thing. >> the extraordinary work of a clinton initiative. >> keep pushing the rocks up the hill. >> big ideas from the big names. dee pock...
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what do you say to mitt romney? >> well, first of all, i do think the start of the presidential campaign in some ways start wd the debate the other night. i think only partisans watch the convention. a lot of the real undecided voters started to tune in. he had a good night, he can build on that. i think what he has to do, though, is not just become the biggest critic of the president. i think other people can do that effectively. he has to start showing his vision and how to give hope to people of why america is going to be better under mitt romney and also let them see him personally. get to know him and see that he's actually a pretty darn likeable guy once you get to know him. >> can he win from here, do you think, john? >> oh, absolutely. i mean, we have already seen some of the polls that came out today since the debates show a great tightening. we have also seen there's been a big influx of money for mitt romney which will for the first time put him on an even parity with obama on advertising, and like i said
what do you say to mitt romney? >> well, first of all, i do think the start of the presidential campaign in some ways start wd the debate the other night. i think only partisans watch the convention. a lot of the real undecided voters started to tune in. he had a good night, he can build on that. i think what he has to do, though, is not just become the biggest critic of the president. i think other people can do that effectively. he has to start showing his vision and how to give hope to...